Re: [sd-2] Re: empty seats / Lemming City.
ro-esp ro-esp at dds.nl
Fri, 8 Apr 2005 19:51:33 +0200
Citeren Mark <firstname.lastname@example.org>:
> --ro-esp wrote:
> >RE: Those who voted for Bush were only a 25% minority. The problem
> is that no one cares about the 50% that didn't vote. What is needed
> is a voting-system in which everyone also has the "none-of-those-
> -M: The main people who don't care about the 50% non-voter's votes
> are the non-voters themselves.
no jantjes-van-leiden (lame jokes to abort real discussion) on this list please
> -M: With SD2, there are no candidate listings. Every voter is a
even those who don't want to ? strange...
> I recommend studying SD2.
do you have a brochure ? (seriously)
> >RE: Those who use it should be represented by empty seats in
> parliaments etc. _without_ changeing the criterium for a majority.
> This means:51% of the representatives present being for something is
> not enough, it takes more than half the seats...Of course, this means
> that if only half the voters vote for a candidate, the gremium in
> question would be powerless. I don't see that as a problem, since
> they would be able to organise referenda, let the decision be taken
> by a "higher" or "lower"gremium AND they could organise new elections
> with additional parties running. In the US this could lead to an end
> for the very strange two-party-system groetjes, Ronaldo
> -M: Ronaldo, this sounds like major grid-lock,
> and for no philosophical reasons that I know of.
the main reason is to prevent that a govt claims to represent the majority,
when in fact only a minority voted for them
> With SD2, there could be multitudes on non-voting representitives, but only
> the top five would vote.
under mussolini the trains were on time....
> My system is more efficient, more simple,
than how come I don't grasp it yet
> more accountable and more(yes)representive than your system. Since
> your system is populistic, at least 49% are guaranteed to be
> marginalized, and there is no mechanism to keep the 51% accountable
> to the reasoned arguements of the 49%. Lemming City.
> -Mark, Seattle WA USA
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