Re: empty seats / Lemming City.
Mark parashakti108 at yahoo.com
Fri, 08 Apr 2005 19:33:01 -0000
> Citeren Mark:
> > --ro-esp wrote:
> > >RE: Those who voted for Bush were only a 25% minority. The
problem is that no one cares about the 50% that didn't vote. What is
needed is a voting-system in which everyone also has the "none-of-
> > -M: The main people who don't care about the 50% non-voter's
votes are the non-voters themselves.
>RE: no jantjes-van-leiden (lame jokes to abort real discussion) on
this list please
-M: There is a point here. People who care about their votes are much
more likely to vote.
> > -M: With SD2, there are no candidate listings. Every voter is a
>RE: even those who don't want to ? strange...
-M: They have the option to be *private/apolitical*, or
*public/political*. They can also choose their level of involvement
in either category.
> >-M: I recommend studying SD2.
>RE: do you have a brochure ? (seriously)
-M: Look at the Q@A. For technical details, look at the operating
> > >RE: Those who use it should be represented by empty seats in
parliaments etc. _without_ changeing the criterium for a majority.
This means:51% of the representatives present being for something is
not enough, it takes more than half the seats...Of course, this means
that if only half the voters vote for a candidate, the gremium in
question would be powerless. I don't see that as a problem, since
they would be able to organise referenda, let the decision be taken
by a "higher" or "lower"gremium AND they could organise new elections
with additional parties running. In the US this could lead to an end
for the very strange two-party-system groetjes, Ronaldo
> > -M: Ronaldo, this sounds like major grid-lock,
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Main Entry: grid·lock
1 : a traffic jam in which a grid of intersecting streets is so
completely congested that no vehicular movement is possible
2 : a situation resembling a gridlock
- gridlock transitive verb
-M: This is a term that can be applied to legislative bodies stuck in
> > -M: and for no philosophical reasons that I know of.
>RE: the main reason is to prevent that a govt claims to represent
the majority, when in fact only a minority voted for them
-M: With populism, *representing the majority* automaticly means NOT
representing the minority. 49% are marginalized.
-M: SD2 finds the *locus of overall consent* to try to represent 100%
in the best way possible.
> > With SD2, there could be multitudes on non-voting
representitives, but only the top five would vote.
>RE: under mussolini the trains were on time....
-M: Any of the directors, with even a hint of power abuse, would be
replaced during the next rank recalculation cycle, which can happen
as frequently as weekly.
> >M: My system is more efficient, more simple,
>RE: than how come I don't grasp it yet gottago
-M: Probably because you don't understand the PageRank algorithm.
-Mark, International Social Organizer, SD2
-Seattle WA USA